Posts by Bungi Bill

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Apologists saying that the JWs shouldn't be banned, what the hell!??

by Crazyguy in

it's been brought to my attention that there are xjw that say they support the witnesses and don't think russia should ban them.

i would just like to remind all of you that jws are guilty of murder, causing higher rates of suicide, covering up child molestation, and keeping members in prisoned because if they leave they loose family, financial support, possible employment etc.. sure their not strapping bombs to their chests but they easily get members to kill themselves with their blood policies.

they are an extremist group!

Bungi Bill

this is NOT your grandpa's generation

That may not mean too much. Certain persons claimed that the JWs were going to all fall in a heap after 1975, for that very same reason:

- "Grandpa's generation" after all, was looking forward to a "Heavenly Hope", whereas the pre-1975 lot very much believed they were about to step directly through into a "Paradise Earth".

Well, such predictions were bloody wrong!

Likewise, I believe a ban on the JWs would work no better now than at any other time:

- That lot are a bit like that old song Close the Door, they're Coming though the Window i.e. "The more you slapped them down, the more they multiplied".

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You can defeat lies with truth. But you can only suppress truth with censorship.

by Island Man in

watchtower bans jws from visiting apostate sites and reading apostate literature.

banning is the tool of the weak and the cowardly, those lacking the courage and/or strength to defeat the enemy face to face.

we ban - quarantine - infected ebola patients from the rest of the population because it's a strong disease and we lack a cure for it.

Bungi Bill

Censorship is very much a two-edged sword.

All too often, it only piques peoples' curiosity about the matter being censored. As the OP has correctly observed, the best way to deal with an untruth is to completely bury it in facts.

Of course, if both parties in the dispute are equally guilty of being "economical in the use of the truth", then both will resort to such measures as censorship.

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Apologists saying that the JWs shouldn't be banned, what the hell!??

by Crazyguy in

it's been brought to my attention that there are xjw that say they support the witnesses and don't think russia should ban them.

i would just like to remind all of you that jws are guilty of murder, causing higher rates of suicide, covering up child molestation, and keeping members in prisoned because if they leave they loose family, financial support, possible employment etc.. sure their not strapping bombs to their chests but they easily get members to kill themselves with their blood policies.

they are an extremist group!

Bungi Bill

Londo 111,

I think you nailed it! When used against extremist elements, bans tend only feed fanaticism.

Against a money-hungry mob such as the WTS, hitting them hard where it hurts the most, like the hip-pocket, is much more effective!

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Just a quick Poll...Do you think the GB is sincere?

by NikL in

jw
friends

i've been thinking about this the past few days and curious what the honest consensus is here just for fun.. show of hands,.

is the governing body.... a: completely sincere.

they really do believe what they teach.. b: somewhat sincere.

Bungi Bill

My guess is that Governing Body membership would be divided between Category C, and a modification of Category A.

This would mean a mixture of both:

1)Those who are completely insincere, and are just playing the system for what they can get out of it.

2) And others who have heard so many lies told for so long that they end up believing it themselves.

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whatever happened to rotation? wt study to April two.

by waton in

with all the emphasis on hierarchical succession in that wt, , what ever happened to mentioning of the refreshing, liberating "rotating of positions" period, the time of great increase?

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Bungi Bill

The rotation of positions in the congregation was implemented at the same time as the elder arrangement came in - i.e. at the start of the 1973 Service Year.

It did not last for very long, though. From memory, the first position to be made non-rotational was that of congregation secretary. That happened fairly quickly, well before the 1970s were out - something to do with the congregation requiring a "fixed address" for all its correspondence.

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Atheism would not appeared if …

by venus in

· if religions were immune to division.

· if scriptures were immune to scientific errors.

· if religious leaders were immune to hypocrisy.

Bungi Bill

....... and if some of us (myself included) are not just totally "Religioned Out"!

- which is maybe just a more polite version of having had a good, old fashioned "Gutsfull".

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Elder doesn't know difference between new moon and full moon

by hoser in

jw
friends

today at the service group the elder leading couldn't figure out which was which.

he was trying to convince us that the memorial was at the new moon.

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Bungi Bill

Well the WTS always liked to say that it required "no special abilities" in order to qualify as an elder!

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Anthony Morris - The Higher Education Broadcast

by pale.emperor in

last night i had jw broadcasting on in the background while i was working, i like to keep up to date with their crap.

which is strange because when i actually was a jw i hated reading or watching their material.. anyway, on the streaming section, anthony morris comes on screen telling me that higher education is bad and "the better the university, the greater the danger".

i never would have believed it if i hadn't seen him say it myself.

Bungi Bill

"We wont need doctors or lawyers after armageddon, but we WILL need carpenters and plumbers!!".

Further proof the bloody fool doesn't know what he is talking about!

Construction activities also require the services of para-professionals such as quantity surveyors, drafting technicians and survey technicians, as well as professionals such as architects, structural engineers, civil engineers and town planners (these are cited as examples only - the list is by no means an exhaustive one).

All these professions together contribute a much different set of skills than that which can possibly be provided by even somebody holding an advanced trade qualification.

For a few brief years during the "quickbuild" kingdom hall era of the late 1980s and early nineties, it seemed like the WTS had finally woken up to that one. If so, then the likes of this bright spark has just as quickly forgotten!

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Anthony Morris - The Higher Education Broadcast

by pale.emperor in

last night i had jw broadcasting on in the background while i was working, i like to keep up to date with their crap.

which is strange because when i actually was a jw i hated reading or watching their material.. anyway, on the streaming section, anthony morris comes on screen telling me that higher education is bad and "the better the university, the greater the danger".

i never would have believed it if i hadn't seen him say it myself.

Bungi Bill

They know how important professionals are to their org. They use them all the time.

Too right they do - and always have done!

As people would express it down in this part of the world "They ought to be shot with a ball of their own $h#t!"

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JW apologetics websites.

by Steel in

lately i have been studying some basic christology and jesus in the old testament and why first christians believed jesus was god in the flesh.

really interesting stuff.

i am not really sure if i fully understand it but i do now realize why pastors go to university and bible school for a number of years and also how their beliefs are not just based on a few verses that can be edited in the nwt.

Bungi Bill

Now my question here is when you were in , did you understand the incredibly complex and twisted explanations of the WTS or did those briefcase full of books just make you sleep better at night.

As I said earlier, there was a time when I thought that I did.

(And we all know what Thought did!)